NC: The English cinema, therefore, sets out again a little.

AB: Then, me I do not say that it is that the merit of the laws of J.LANG, but obviously, that counted.

NC: But is the song, in Italy, the Italian song, there nevertheless a tradition? How does such go?

AB: There are very beautiful things...

NC: There is a production, and in the other countries which you visit?

AB: In Germany, there are interesting things, therefore.

NC: Yes?

AB: Yes. There are interesting things.

NC: Because us, one has a little the impression, nevertheless, that there is a colonization (American culture), one will say.

AB: There, one returns in a field... Me I like with the madness the American music, I to you says it. I find things incredible. The disc of SPRINGSTEEN, the last, for me it is one of the most beautiful things which I ever heard, but, in my life, what. Without being rethoric, therefore. But good! Very complicated.

NC: You are not concerned, you, by this, this idea?

AB: Which?

NC: The idea to defend the cultures, finally, the song, since one speaks about it, the national song. In the various countries of Europe.

AB: it is not a question of defending, it is a question of including/understanding why one does that and not another thing. In the musical traditions Italian, or national, therefore in the Italian musical tradition I can speak. It is very long but one can speak about why that is done and other thing is not made. Because there are historically precise reasons which have to see much with one period of the Italian musical life, i.e. all the fact that the Italian music never produced what one calls a symphonism. Thus, at time given, after the period baroque, the European musics produced a species of revolution in the harmony, to WAGNER. In Italy, that was not there. Therefore one period ago of sleep between a certain moment and the melodrama which was a thing completely very popular. Therefore us, we miss a whole culture of harmony. Then if you hear Italian musics, it is always, harmonically, very very simple. Then from that, the wire of the Scandinavian tradition produced things harmonically more complex and prettier. Us, one continues to reach the agreements of the " hairdresser ", like one says. Then that you see, then that, if you there considered, you say it, you know it, and here!

NC: Doesn't Ca explain all?

AB: Not, but that does not explain things badly.