NC: Is it is what, it dandism?

AB: And yes, that I acknowledge that too.

NC: It is well, but you gain with being known.

AB: I did not include/understand that. Do Ca want to say what?

NC: That it is although you are met. Because it is not at all the image which one has of you!

AB: Ah yes! but I know, the history, yes.

NC: Why this image, then, of guy a little intello, sometimes a little even sinks, a little hermetic. It is true that Etienne RODA-GIL is there perhaps for much.

AB: Then there it should well be said that paradoxically, the musician is not the person. Because if it is true that one says to self what one does not know, then the man is different. He could be better, he could be much worse. But normally it is different, i.e., very often.

NC: But then, you are who, the man is what, you are a middle-class man?

AB: Not, but listen.

NC: You are very rich, I imagine?

AB: But not, except if I do not throw badly, but, I want to say...

NC: Good, that goes!

AB: Me, I was very very poor. Therefore... But that goes, yes. I am very content, yes!

NC: But you are not a new rich person, you are old poor?

AB: Then there it is very long. Yes, I am poor that in the family had been very rich. Then the turn of the world was made. Therefore there always was a side, and even when one lived with embarrassments beside the port, heu I want to say whom was the last degree of the human life!, in the casba of the port of embarrassments, then nevertheless, my mother, the aristocratic side it always had.

NC: It was of the nob, your parents?

AB: Not, they was latifundists. The insane ones!

NC: What is it, of the " latifundists "?

AB: Then, " latifundo ", ah forgiveness, me I translate like that. Latifundo, they is when you have much, much grounds. But it is funny, then there there is... The family of my mother, therefore, they had two hundred kilometers of grounds. And it is funny...

NC: Two hundred kilometers of grounds?

AB: Yes. Good, that went from will novara to Turin. Euh, at a given moment, my grandfather, that I ever knew, - who, has like five or six brothers -, my grandfather, for reasons that I do not know, was an anarchist, but hundred percent, who finished in the books of history for things that one does not tell, but, finally, because the anarchist... There was the king, and, to the anarchist the king did not like.